BLUFFERS and SHOW-BOTTLE SPIRITUALISTS
Srila Prabhupada talks with a journalist about:
Late in 1968, in Los Angeles,
His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada,
Founder and Acarya of the International Society for Krsna
Consciousness, granted a magazine interview.
- Journalist: I think an awful lot
of our readers, and an awful lot of people in the United
States, are terribly confused with the many people who
claim to be Gurus and gods and who pop up in
this country, one after the other, after the other,
and they say that...
- Srila Prabhupada: "I can declare
that they are all nonsense"
- Journalist: I wonder if you could
elaborate on that a little bit.
- Srila Prabhupada: I can say, furthermore,
they're all rascals.
- Journalist: For example, the famous
one who sells meditation mantras?
- Srila Prabhupada: HE is Rascal number
one. I say it publicly.
- Journalist: Could you explain, give
me a little background on that and why, because our
- Srila Prabhupada: From his behaviour
I can understand he is rascal number one. I do not want
to know about him, but what he has done makes it obvious.
But the wonderful thing is that people in the Western
countries are supposed to be so advanced-how they are
befooled by these rascals?
- Journalist: Well, I think that people
are looking for something, and he comes along...
- Srila Prabhupada: Yes, but they want
something very cheap-that is their fault. Now, for our
disciples, we don't give anything cheap. Our first condition
is character-moral character. You see? Unless one is
strictly following moral principles, we don't initiate
him, we don't allow him in this institution. And this
so-called guru has been telling people, "Just do
whatever you like. You simply pay me thirty-five dollars,
and I'll give you a mantra." You see? So people
want to be cheated, and so many cheaters come. People
do not wish to undergo any discipline. They have got
money, so they think, "We shall pay and immediately
we'll get whatever we want."
- Journalist: Instand heaven.
- Srila Prabhupada: Yes. That is their
- Journalist: Let me ask you-I have
my opinion, but let me ask you-Why do you feel that
the younger people today are turning more and more toward
the Eastern-oriented religions?
- Srila Prabhupada: Because your materialistic
way of life no longer satisfies them. In America, especially,
you have got enough for enjoyment. You have got enough
food, enough women, enough wine, enough houses-enough
of everything. But still you have confusion and dissatisfaction-more
in your country than in India, which is said to be poverty-stricken.
But you'll find in India that although they are poverty-stricken,
they are continuing their old spiritual culture. So
the people are not as disturbed. This shows that material
advancement alone cannot give one satisfaction. So it
is necessary now that people should take to spiritual
life. That will make them happy. All these people-they
are in darkness. There is no hope. They do not know
where they are going; they have no aim. But when you
are spiritually situated, you know what you are doing
and where you are going. Everything is clear.
- Journalist: In other words, you feel
that the Western-oriented church, whether it be a synagogue
or a church or whatever-has failed to present spiritual
life. Would you say that their message is not relevant?
Or is it that they have failed to present their message
- Srila Prabhupada: Take the bible.
It was spoken long, long ago in the desert. These people
were not very advanced. So at that time, in the Old
Testament, it was sufficient to say, "There is
a God, and God created the world. "That is a fact.
But now people are scientifically advanced, and they
want to know in detail how the creation has taken place.
You see? And that detailed, scientific explanation is
not there in the Bible. And the church can't give any
more than that. Therefore people are not satisfied.
Simply officially going to the church and offering prayers
does not appeal to them. Besides that, the so called
religious leaders are not following even the most basic
religious principles. For instance, in the Old Testament
there are the Ten Commandments, and one commandment
is "Thou shalt not kill. "But killing is very
prominent in the Christian world. The religious leaders
are sanctioning slaughterhouses, and they have manufactured
a theory that animals have no soul. "give the dog
a bad name and hang it," So when we ask, "Why
are you committing this sinful act of killing?"
the priests refuse to discuss the matter. Everyone is
silent. That means they are deliberately disobeying
the Ten Commandments. So where are religious principles?
It is plainly stated, "Thou shalt not kill".
Why are they killing? How do you answer?
- Journalist: Are you asking me?
- Srila Prabhupada: Yes
- Journalist: Well "Thou shalt
not kill" is obviously an ethic...and its timeless,
and it's valid. But man is not really interested...
- Srila Prabhupada: Yes, that's right.
They are not really interested in religion. It is simply
show-bottle. If you do not follow the regulative principles,
then where is your religion?
- Journalist: I'm not arguing with
you. I couldn't agree with you more. I'm in total agreement.
It doesn't make any sense. "Thou shalt not kill."
"Thou shalt worship no other gods before Me."
"thou shalt not covet thy neighbours goods."
"Thou shalt honour thy father and thy mother."...
Those are beautiful-
- Srila Prabhupada: "Thou shalt
not covet thy neighbours wife" -but who is
- Journalist: Very few.
- Srila Prabhupada: So how can they
say they're religious? And without religion, human society
is animal society.
- Journalist: All right, but let me
ask you this. How does your interpretation differ from
the basic Judeo-Christian ethic of the Ten Commandments?
- Srila Prabhupada: There is no difference.
But as I have told you, none of them are strictly following
the Ten Commandments. So I simply say, "Please
follow God's commandments." That is my message.
- Journalist: In other words, you're
asking them to obey those principles
- Srila Prabhupada: Yes. I don't say
that Christians should become Hindu. I simply say, "Please
obey your Commandments." I'll make you a better
Christian. That is my mission. I don't say, "Obey
God." I dont say, "God is not your tradition-God
is only here in ours." I simply say, "Obey
God." I don't say, "You have to accept that
Gods name is Krsna and no other. "No I say "Please
obey God. Please try to love God."
- Journalist: Let me put it this way.
If your mission and the mission of the Western Judeo-Christian
ethic are the same, again let me ask, why is it that
the younger people, or people in general, are disenchanted,
are trying to go toward the Eastern-oriented religions?
Why are they going toward the Eastern if both are the
- Srila Prabhupada: Because Judaism
and Christianity are not teaching them practically.
I am teaching them practically.
- Journalist: In other words, You're
teaching them what you feel is practical, everyday method
for attaining this fulfilment of man's spirit.
- Srila Prabhupada: Love of Godhead
is being taught both in the Bible and in the Bhagavad-gita.
But today's religionists are not actually teaching how
to love God. I am teaching people how to love God-that
is the difference. Therefore, young people are attracted.
- Journalist: All right. So the end
is the same, but it's the method of getting there that's
- Srila Prabhupada: No-the end is the
same and the method is also the same. But these so-called
religious leaders are not teaching people to follow
the method. I am teaching them practically how to follow
- Journalist: Let me ask you something
that we've run into a great deal just recently. The
biggest problem holding men and women back from love
of God and following the Ten Commandments is the problem-how
should I put it?-well the sexual problem. Now I'm stating
something thats obvious. Weve all gone though
- Srila Prabhupada: Yes, everyone.
- Journalist: And there is nothing
in Western culture or religion that teaches or helps
a young person to cope with this difficult problem.
I went though it. We all have. Now do you, in your message,
give the young people something to hang on to? And if
- Srila Prabhupada: I ask my disciples
to get married. I don't allow this nonsense of boys
living with girl friends. No. "You must get yourself
married and live like a gentleman."
- Journalist: Well, let me get a little
more basic. How about when one is fourteen-fifteen-sixteen
- Srila Prabhupada: One thing is that
we teach our boys how to become (brahmacari)-how to
live the life of celibacy, how to control their senses.
In Vedic culture, marriage generally doesnt take
place until the boy is about twenty-four or twenty-five
and the girl is about sixteen or seventeen. And because
they are experiencing the spiritual pleasure of Krsna
consciousness, they are not simply interested in sex
life. So we don't say "don't mix with women,"
or ,"Stop sex life." But we regulate everything
under the higher principle of Krsna Consciousness. In
this way everything goes nicely.
- Journalist: So your disciples don't
just bite their tongue or their lip and say, "I
won't touch her (or him)."There is a substitute?
- Srila Prabhupada Yes, a higher taste.
That is Krsna Consciousness. And it is working: I'm
already teaching Western men and women how to control
their sexual impulse. My disciples that you see here
are all Americans. They are not imported from India.
- Journalist: One thing I want to know
is what you think about people like this famous Mantra-selling
Guru, who turned me off and so many other people. My
daughter was very involved in that kind of thing for
awhile. She's terribly disillusioned.
- Srila Prabhupada: The psychology
is that the Western people, especially youngsters, are
hankering after spiritual life. Now, if somebody comes
to me and says, "Svamiji, initiate me, " I
immediately say, "You have to follow these four
principles-no meat-eating, no gambling, no intoxication,
and no illicit sex." Many go away. But this mantra
seller-he did not put any restrictions. Thats
just like a physician who says, "You can do whatever
you like; you simply take my medicine and you'll be
cured. "That physician will be very popular.
- Journalist: Yes, He'll kill a lot
of people, but he'll be very will liked.
- Srila Prabhupada: Yes, (Laughs).
And a real Physician say's, "You cannot do that.
You cannot eat this. "This is a botheration for
people. They want something very cheap. Therefore the
cheaters come and cheat them. They take the opportunity--because
people want to be cheated. "Oh, let us take advantage!"
You see? So the rascals advise people, You are God --
everyone is God. You just have to realize yourself-you
have simply forgotten. You take this mantra, and you'll
become god. You'll become powerful. There is no need
to control the senses. You can drink. You can have unrestricted
sex life and whatever you like. People like this. "Oh,
simply by fifteen minutes meditation I shall become
God, and I have to pay only thirty-five dollars. "Many
millions of people will be ready to do it. For Americans,
thirty-five dollars is not very much. But multiplied
by a million, it becomes thirty-five million dollars.
[Laughs.] We cannot bluff like that. We say that if
you actually want spiritual life, you have to follow
the restrictions. The commandment is, "You shall
not kill." So I shall not say, Yes, you can kill-the
animal has no feeling, the animal has no soul ."We
cannot bluff in this way, you see.
- Journalist: This kind of thing has
disenchanted an awful lot of young people.
- Srila Prabhupada: So please try to
help us. This movement is very nice. It will help your
country. It will help the whole human society. It is
a genuine movement. We are not bluffing or cheating.
It is authorized
- Journalist: Authorized by whom?
- Srila Prabhupada Authorized by Krsna,
God. In India this Krsna consciousness philosophy has
millions and millions of followers -- eighty percent
of the population If you ask any Indian he will be able
to tell you so many things about Krsna Consciousness.
- Journalist: Do you really think,
from a very practical standpoint, that your movement
has a chance to make it here in America?
- Srila Prabhupada: From what I've
seen it has a great chance. We don't say "give
up your religion and come to us." We say, "At
least follow your own principles. And then if you want
to, study with us. "Sometimes it happens that although
students have received their M.A. degree, they go to
foreign universities to study more. Why does it happen?
They want more enlightenment. Similarly, any religious
scripture you may follow will give you enlightenment.
But if you find more in this Krsna consciousness movement,
then why should you not accept it? If you are serious
about god, why should you say, Oh, "I am Christian,"
"I am Jewish," "I cannot attend your
meeting"? If I am speaking about God, what objection
can you have?
- Journalist: Well I couldn't agree
with you more.
- Srila Prabhupada: I am prepared to
talk with any God conscious man. Let us chalk out a
program so that people may be benefited. But they want
to go on in their stereotyped way. If we see that by
following a particular type of religious principle one
is developing love of God, that is first-class religion.
But if one is merely developing his love for mammon,
then what kind of religion is that?
- Journalist: Right you are.
- Srila Prabhupada: That is our test-you
have to develop love for GOD. we don't say that you
must follow Christianity, or Muhammadanism, or Judaism,
or Hinduism. We simply look to see whether you are developing
your love of Godhead. But they say, "Who is God?
I am God." you see? Everyone is taught nowadays
that everyone is God.
- Journalist: Have you seen pictures
of a smiling man with a moustache and a pushed-in nose?
Before he died, he said he was God.
- Srila Prabhupada: He was God? He
was another rascal. Just see-this is going on. He was
making propaganda that he was God. That means that people
do not know what God is. Suppose I come to you and say
that I am the President of the United States. Will you
- Journalist: [Laughs] No, I don't
think I would.
- Srila Prabhupada: These rascals!
The people are accepting them as God because they do
not know what god is---that is the problem.
- Journalist; It's just absolutely
absurd that somebody comes along and tells you he's
- Srila Prabhupada: But whoever accepts
him as God is just as much a rascal. The man who says
he's God-he's rascal number one. He's a cheater. And
the man who is cheated-he's also a rascal. He doses
not know what God is. He thinks that God is so cheap
that you can find Him in the marketplace.
- Journalist: Of course, the Western
concept is that man is created in the image of God,
Consequently, God must look somewhat like man.
- Srila Prabhupada: You have got so
many scientists. So just find out what the actual image
of God is, what His form is really like. Where is that
department? You have got so many departments, research
department, technology department. But where is that
department that researches what God is? Is there any
such department of knowledge?
- Journalist: There's no God department
working tonight-I'll tell you that right now.
- Srila Prabhupada: That is the difficulty.
But the Krsna consciousness movement is the department
of how to know God. If you study with us, then you'll
not accept any rascals as God. You'll accept only God
as God. We are teaching about another nature beyond
this material nature. This material nature is coming
into existence and again dissolving, but God and His
Spiritual nature are eternal. We living entities are
also eternal-with out any end or any beginning. This
Krsna consciousness movement is teaching how we can
transfer ourselves to that eternal, spiritual nature
where God is residing.
- Journalist: That's man's quest.
- Srila Prabhupada: Yes, that is the
quest. Everyone is trying to be happy, because that
is the living entity's prerogative. He is meant by nature
to be happy, but he does not know where he can be happy.
He is trying to be happy in a place where there are
four miserable conditions-namely birth, old age, disease,
and death. The scientists are trying to be happy and
make other people happy. But what scientist has stopped
old age, disease, death, and rebirth? Has any scientist
- Journalist: I don't think so.
Srila Prabhupada: So what
is this? Why do they not consider, "We have made so
much improvement, but what improvement have we made in theses
four areas? They have not made any, and still they
are very much proud of their advancement in education and
technology. But the four primary miseries remain as they
are. You see? The scientists may have made advancements
in medicine, but is there any remedy that can allow us to
claim, "Now there is no more disease"? Is there
any such remedy? No. So then what is the scientists' advancement?
Rather, disease is increasing in so many new forms. They
have invented nuclear weapons. What good is that? Simply
for killing. Have they invented something so that no more
men will die? That would be to their credit. But people
are dying at every moment, and the scientist have simply
invented something to accelerate their death. That is all.
Is that to their credit? So there is still no solution to
death. And they are trying to stop overpopulation. But where
is their solution? Every minute the population is increasing
by three persons. These are the statistics. So there is
no solution for birth. There is no solution for death. There
is no solution for old age. Even a great scientist like
Professor Einstein had to undergo old age and death. Why
could he not stop old age? Everyone is trying to remain
youthful, but what is the process? The scientist do not
care to solve this problem-because it is beyond their means.
They are giving some kind of bluff, that's all. But Krsna
Consciousness is the solution, and the whole thing is described
in Bhagavad-gita. Let them try to understand it. At least
let them make an experiment. (His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta
Swami, Late in 1968)
The Qualifications of the Spiritual
An address given at the University of Stockholm in September
of 1973, by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
In order to enter into spiritual life, two things are required.
As enunciated by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, one needs the
mercy of the Supreme Lord and the mercy of the spiritual
brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva guru-krsna-prasade
The livinq entities are wandering throughout the universe
changing bodies, transmigrating from one body to another,
from one place to another, and from one planet to another.
Brahmanda bhramite: they are rotating within this
This science is unknown to the modern educators-how the
spirit soul is transmigrating from one body to another,
and how he is being transferred from one planet to another.
But we have explained this in our book Easy Journey to Other
Planets. In fact, the guru can help you transmigrate from
this planet directly to the spiritual sky, Vaikunthaloka,
where there are innumerable spiritual planets. The topmost
planet in the spiritual sky is Krsna's planet, called Goloka
Vrndavana. The Krsna consciousness movement is trying to
give information of how one can be transferred directly
to the Goloka Vrndavana planet, Krsnaloka. That is our mission.
What is the difference between this material
world and the spiritual world? The difference is that in
the material world you have to change your body, although
you are eternal. Ajo nityah sasvato 'yam purano na hanyate
hanyamane sarire. You are not destroyed after the annihilation
of your material body, but you transmigrate to another body,
which may be one of 8,400,000 forms. Jalaja nava-laksani.
There are 900,000 forms in the water, 2,000,000 forms of
trees and plants, 1,100,000 forms of insects, 1,000,000
forms of birds, and 3,000,000 forms of beasts. Then you
come to this human form of life. Now it is your choice whether
to be transferred again, by the cycle of transmigration,
from one body to another in the lower species of life, or
whether to be transferred to the spiritual sky-to the highest
spiritual planet, known as Goloka Vrndavana. That is your
You have been given the chance of this human
form of body to make your choice. In the lower species you
are completely under the control of material nature, but
when the material nature gives you a chance to get this
human form of body, you can choose whatever you like. That
is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita (9.25): yanti deva-vrata
devan pitrn yanti pitr-vratah bhutani yanti bhutejya yanti
mad-yajino 'pi mam Those who are trying to be elevated
to the higher planets-deva-loka, or the planets of the demigods,
where the standard of living and the life span are very
great-may worship the demigods. Or if you want you may be
transferred to the Pitrloka, to the planets of the ghosts,
or to the planet where Krsna lives (yanti mad-yajino
'p mam). This all depends on your activities. But samsara-rotating,
wandering within this material world from one body to another
or from one planet to another-is not advised.
Material existence is called samsara.
Bhutva bhutva praliyate: you take your birth in some
form of body, you live for some time, then you have to give
up this body. Then you have to accept another body, again
live for some time, then give up that body, and then again
accept another body. This is called samsara. The material
world is compared to davanala, a forest fire. As we have
experienced, no one goes to the forest to set a fire, but
still it takes place. Similarly, no one within this material
world wants to be unhappy. Everyone is trying to be very
happy, but one is forced to accept unhappiness.
In this material world, from time immemorial
to the present moment, there have been occasional wars,
world wars, even though people have devised various means
to stop wars. When I was a young man there was the League
of Nations. In 1920, after the First World War, different
nations formed the League of Nations, just to arrange for
peaceful living among themselves. No one wanted war, but
again there was a forest fire-the Second World War. Now
they have devised the United Nations, but war is still going
on-the Vietnam war, the Pakistan war, and many others. So
you may try your best to live very peacefully, but nature
will not allow you. There must be war. And this warlike
feeling is always going on, not only between nation and
nation, but also between man and man, neighbour and neighbour-even
between husband and wife and father and son. This warlike
feeling is going on. This is called davanala, a forest fire.
No one goes to the forest to set fire, but automatically,
by the friction of dried bamboo, sparks arise, and the forest
Similarly, although we do not want unhappiness,
by our dealings we create enemies, and there is fighting
and war. This is called samsara-davanala. This forest fire
of material existence goes on perpetually, and the authorized
person who can deliver you from this fire is called guru,
the spiritual master. How does he deliver you? What is his
means? Consider the same example. When there is a fire in
the forest, you cannot send a fire brigade or go there yourself
with bucketfuls of water to extinguish it. That is not possible.
Then how will it be extinguished? You need water to extinguish
fire, but where will the water come from-from your bucket
or your fire brigade? No, it must come from the sky. Only
when there are torrents of rain from the sky will the blazing
forest fire be extinguished. These rains from the sky do
not depend on your scientific propaganda or manipulation.
They depend on the mercy of the Supreme Lord. So the spiritual
master is compared to a cloud. Just as there are torrents
of rain from a cloud, so the spiritual master brings mercy
from the Supreme Personality of Godhead. A cloud takes water
from the sea. It doesn't have its own water, but takes water
from the sea. Similarly, the spiritual master brings mercy
from the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Just see the comparison. He has no mercy
of his own, but he carries the mercy of the Supreme Personality
of Godhead. That is the qualification of the spiritual master.
The spiritual master will never say, "I am God-I can
give you mercy." No. That is not a spiritual master-that
is a bogus pretender. The spiritual master will say, "I
am a servant of God; I have brought His mercy. Please take
it and be satisfied." This is the spiritual master's
business. He is just like a mailman. When a mailman delivers
you some large amount of money, it is not his own money.
The money is sent by someone else, but he honestly delivers
it-"Sir, here is your money. Take it." So you
become very much satisfied with him, although it is not
his money he is giving you. When you are in need and you
get money from your father or someone else-brought by the
mailman-you feel very much satisfaction.
Similarly, we are all suffering in this blazing
fire of material existence. But the spiritual master brings
the message from the Supreme Lord and delivers it to you,
and if you kindly accept it, then you'll be satisfied. This
is the business of the spiritual master, samsara-davanala-lidha-loka-
tranaya karunya-ghanaghanatvam praptasya kalyana-gunarnavasya
vande guroh sri-caranaravindam Thus the spiritual master
is offered obeisances: "Sir, you have brought mercy
from the Supreme Lord; therefore, we are much obliged to
you. You have come to deliver us, so we offer our respectful
obeisances." That is the meaning of this verse: the
first qualification of the spiritual master, or guru, is
that he brings you the message to stop the blazing fire
in your heart. This is the test.
Everyone has a blazing fire within his heart-a
blazing fire of anxiety. That is the nature of material
existence. Always, everyone has anxiety; no one is free
from it. Even a small bird has anxiety. If you give the
small bird some grains to eat, he'll eat them, but he won't
eat very peacefully. He'll look this way and that way- "Is
somebody coming to kill me?" This is material existence.
Everyone, even a president like Mr. Nixon, is full of anxieties.
What to speak of others. Even Gandhi, in our country-he
was full of anxiety. All politicians are full of anxiety.
They may hold a very exalted post, but still the material
disease-anxiety-is there. So if you want to be anxiety-less,
then you must take shelter of the guru, the spiritual master.
And the test of the guru is that by following his instructions
you'll be free from anxiety.
This is the test. Don't try to find
a cheap guru or a fashionable guru. Just as you
sometimes keep a dog as a fashion, if you want to keep a
guru as a fashion-"I have a guru" -that will not
help. You must accept a guru who can extinguish the blazing
fire of anxiety within your heart. That is the first test
of the guru. The second test is, mahaprabho kirtana-nrtya-gita-
vaditra-madyan-manaso rasena. The second symptom of
the guru is that he is always engaged in chanting, glorifying
Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu - that is his business. Mahaprabhoh
kirtana-nrtya-gita. The spiritual master is dancing
and chanting the holy name of the Lord, because that is
the remedy for all calamities within this material world.
At the present moment, no one can meditate. The so-called
meditation now popular in the West is humbug. It is very
difficult to meditate in this disturbing age of Kali [the
age of quarrel and hypocrisy). Therefore sastra [scripture]
says, krte yad dhyayato visnum.
In the Satya-yuga [the age of truth], when
people used to live for one hundred thousand years, Valmiki
Muni attained perfection by meditating for sixty thousand
years. But now we have no guarantee that we are going to
live for sixty years or even sixty hours. So meditation
is not possible in this age. In the next age [the Treta-yuga],
people performed rituals, as they are described in the Vedic
sastra. Tretayam yajato makhaih. Makhaih means
performing big, big sacrifices. That requires huge amounts
of money. In the present age people are very poor, so they
cannot perform these sacnfices. Dvapare paricaryayam-
in the Dvapara- yuga [the age just prior to the present
age] it was possible to worship the Deity opulently in the
temple, but nowadays, in the Kali-yuga, that is also an
impossible task. Therefore, the general recom- mendation
is kalau tad dhari-kirtanat: in this age of Kali
one can attain all perfection simply by chanting the holy
name of the Lord.
The Krsna consciousness movement is meant
to spread such chanting. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu inaugurated
this movement of chanting and dancing. It has been going
on for the last five hundred years. In India it is very
popular, but in the Western countries we have just introduced
it five or six years ago. Now people are taking to it, and
they are feeling happy. This is the only process. Therefore,
the guru is always engaged in chanting. Mahaprabhoh
kirtana-nrtya-gita chanting and dancing. Unless he
performs it himself, how can he teach his disciples? So
his first symptom is that he will give you such instructions
that immediately you will feel relief from all anxiety,
and his second symptom is that he is always personally engaged
in chanting the holy name of the Lord and dancing. Mahaprabhoh
kirtana-nrtya-gita-vaditra-madyan-manaso rasena - the
spiritual master enjoys transcendental bliss within his
mind by chanting and dancing. Unless you become blissful,
you cannot dance. You cannot dance artificially. When devotees
dance, it is not artificial. They feel some transcendental
bliss, and therefore they dance. It is not that they are
dancing dogs. No. Their dancing is performed from the spiritual
platform. Romanca-kampasru-taranga-bhajah. There
are sometimes transformations of the body with spiritual
symptoms-sometimes crying, sometimes the hairs standing
on end. There are so many symptoms. These are natural. These
symptoms are not to be imitated, but when one is spiritually
advanced, they are visible.
The third symptom of the guru is: sri-vigraharadhana-nitya-nana-srngara-tan-mandira-marjanadau
yuktasya bhaktams ca niyunjato pi vande guroh sri-caranaravindam
The spiritual master's duty is to engage the disciples in
worshiping the Deity, sri-vigraha. In all of our one hundred
centers, we engage in Deity worship.
Here in Stockholm this worship has not yet
been fully established, but we worship the pictures of Lord
Caitanya and the guru. In other centres, such as the ones
in England and America, there is Deity worship. Sri-vigraharadhana-
nitya-nana-srngara-tan-mandira-marjanadau: Deity worship
means to dress the Deity very nicely, to cleanse the temple
very nicely, to offer nice foodstuffs to the Deity, and
to accept the remnants of the Deity's foodstuffs for our
eating. This is the method of Deity worship. Deity worship
is done by the guru himself, and he also engages his disciples
in that worship. This is the third symptom.
The fourth symptom is: catur- vidha-sri-bhagavat-prasada-svadv-anna-trptan
hari-bhakta-sanghan krtvaiva trptim bhajatah sadaiva vande
guroh sri-caranaravindam The spiritual master encourages
distribution of prasada (remnants of Krsna's foodstuffs)
to the public. Ours is not dry philosophy- simply talk and
go away. No. We distribute prasada, very sumptuous prasada.
In every temple, we offer prasada to anyone who comes. In
each and every temple we already have from fifty to two
hundred devotees, and outsiders also come and take prasada.
So prasada distribution is another symptom of the guru.
If you eat bhagavat-prasada, then gradually you become spiritualized;
it has this potency. Therefore it is said that realization
of God begins with the tongue. Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau:
if you engage your tongue in the service of the Lord, then
you realize God. So what is that engagement of the tongue?
You chant the holy name of the Lord, and you take this prasada,
remnants of foodstuffs offered to the Lord. Then you become
self-realized, God-realized-by these two methods. You don't
have to be very highly educated or be a philosopher, a scientist,
or a rich man to realize God. If you just sincerely engage
your tongue in the service of the Lord, you will realize
Him. It is so simple. It is not very difficult. Therefore
the guru, the spiritual master, introduces this prasada
program. Svadv-anna-trptan hari-bhakta-sanghan. Hari-bhakta-sanghan
means "in the association of devotees." You cannot
do it outside. Krtvaiva trptim bhajatah sadaiva:
when the guru is fully satisfied that prasada distribution
is going on, he is very much pleased, and he engages himself
in the devotional service of the Lord by chanting and dancing.
This is the fourth symptom.
The fifth symptom is: sri-radhika-madhavayor
vande guroh sri-caranaravindam The spiritual master
is always thinking of the pastimes of Krsna with His consort
Srimati Radharani and the gopis. Sometimes he is thinking
about Krsna's pastimes with the cowherd boys. This means
that he is always thinking of Krsna engaged in some kind
of pastime. Pratiksanasvadana-lolupasya. Prati-ksana
means he is thinking that way twenty-four hours a day. That
is Krsna consciousness. One must be engaged twenty-four
hours a day in thinking of Krsna. You have to make yourself
a program like this. We, at least, have made such a program-all
the boys and girls in the Krsna consciousness movement are
engaged twenty-four hours daily- not just officially, not
that once a week they meditate or go to some temple. No,
they engage twenty-four hours a day.
The next symptom is: nikunja-yuno rati-keli-siddhyai
ya yalibhir yuktir apeksaniya tatrati-daksyad ati-vallabhasya
vande guroh sri-caranaravindam The spiritual master's
ultimate goal is that he wants to be transferred to the
planet of Krsna, where he can associate with the gopis to
help them serve Krsna. Some spiritual masters are thinking
of becoming assistants to the gopis, some are thinking of
becoming assistants to the cowherd boys, some are thinking
of becoming assistants to Nanda and mother Yasoda, and some
are thinking of becoming God's servants. Some are thinking
of becoming flower trees, fruit trees, calves, or cows in
There are five kinds of mellows: santa [veneration],
dasya [servitorship], sakhya [friendship], vatsalya [parenthood],
and madhurya [conjugal love]. Everything is there in the
spiritual world. Cintamani-prakara-sadmasu: in
the spiritual sky, even the land is spiritual. The trees
are spiritual, the fruit is spiritual, the flowers are spiritual,
the water is spiritual, the servants are spiritual, the
friends are spiritual, the mothers are spiritual, the fathers
are spiritual, the Lord is spiritual, and His associates
are spiritual. It is all absolute, although there are varieties.
In the material world these spiritual varieties are merely
reflected, just like trees on a riverbank. A tree is reflected
in the water, but reflected how? Upside down. Similarly,
this material world is a reflection of the spiritual world,
but a perverted reflection. In the spiritual world there
is love between Radha and Krsna. Krsna is always young-
nava-yauvana. And Radharani is always young, because
She is Krsna's pleasure potency. Sri-radhika-madhavayor
apara. Jaya radha-madhava. We worship not Krsna alone
but Krsna with His eternal consort Srimati Radharani. There
is eternal love between Radharani and Krsna. Therefore the
Vedanta-sutra says, janmady asya yatah: the Absolute Truth
is that from which everything emanates. In this world we
find love between mother and son, love between wife and
husband, love between master and servant, between friend
and friend, between the master and the dog or the cat or
the cow. But these are only reflections of the spiritual
world. Krsna is also the good lover of the animals, the
calves and cows. Just as here we love dogs and cats, there
Krsna loves cows and calves. You have seen this in pictures
of Krsna. So the propensity to love even an animal is there
in the spiritual world. Otherwise, how can it be reflected?
This world is simply a reflection. If in
the reality there is nothing like that, how can it be reflected
here? So everything is there in the spiritual world. But
to understand that original propensity to love, you have
to practice Krsna consciousness. Here in this world we are
experiencing frustration. Here we love-a man loves a woman,
or a woman loves a man-but there is frustration. After some
time they are divorced, because their love is a perverted
reflection. There is no real love in this world. It is simply
lust. Real love is in the spiritual world, between Radha
and Krsna. Real love is there between Krsna and the gopis.
Real love is there in the friendship between Krsna and His
cowherd boys. Real love is there between Krsna and the cows
and calves. Real love is there between the trees, flowers,
and water. In the spiritual world, everything is love.
But within this material world, we are satisfied
merely by the reflection of the things in the spiritual
world. So, now that we have this opportunity of human life,
let us under-stand Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness- let
us understand Krsna. And as the Bhagavad-gita [4.9] says,
janma karma ca me divyam evam yo vetti tattvatah
-you should understand Krsna in truth, not superficially.
Learn the science of Krsna. This is the instruction- you
should simply try to love Krsna. The process is that you
worship the Deity, you take prasada, you chant Krsna's holy
names, and you follow the instruction of the spiritual master.
In this way you'll learn how to understand Krsna, and then
your life will be successful. This is our Krsna consciousness
movement. Thank you very much. (A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami
The Disciplic Succession
In the Introduction to "Bhagavad-gita As It Is"
we find a list of the complete disciplic succession of
the Brahma Madhva Gaudiya Sampradaya, beginning with Lord
Sri Krsna, up to and including the current Sampradaya
Acarya, His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila
Lord Krsna says: Evam parampara-praptam imam rajarsayo
viduh "This Supreme science was thus received
through the chain of Disciplic Succession, and the Saintly
Kings understood it in this way."
This Bhagavad-gita As It Is is received through this
10. Jaya Tirtha
17. Brahmanya Tirtha
18. Vyasa Tirtha
20. Madhavendra Puri
21. Isvara Puri, (Nityananda, Advaita)
22. Lord Caitanya
23. Rupa, (Svarupa, Sanatana)
24. Raghunatha, Jiva
28. (Baladeva) Jagannatha
31. Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati
32. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
(Bhaktivedanta Book Trust. HDG A.C. Bhaktivedanta
Swami Srila Prabhupada)
The name of our sampradaya -- Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya-sampradaya
- suggests three distinct phases, or links in the disciplic
chain. The disciplic succession begins with Lord Brahma,
who first spoke the absolute truth into the cosmic creation
after receiving it in his heart directly from Lord Krsna.
Lord Brahma was the spiritual master of Narada Muni, and
Narada passed the teachings on to Vyasadev.
The second phase is marked after Vyasadev with Sripada
Madhvacarya, who took his birth at Udupi somewhere between
the years of A.D. 1119 and A.D. 1239. While the chronological
gap between the manifestations of Sri Vyasadev and Madhvacarya
is long, as Srila Prabhupada wrote in a letter to Dayananda
(12-04-68): "Regarding parampara system, there is
nothing to wonder for big gaps. We have to pick up the
prominent acarya and follow from him."
Sri Madhvacarya claimed to be a direct disciple of Vyasa,
from whom he directly received the Vedanta. Their relationship
is not stated to be one of initiation, and in fact, Madhva
is described as having taking initiation from the Sankara
line. From his base in Udipi, he went on to establish
what continues today as a strict system of succession.
The third phase of the succession is marked by the appearance
of Lord Caitanya in Gauda-desa, Bengal. Lord Caitanya
took birth in Navadvipa, Bengal in the year A.D. 1407.
Lord Caitanya did not formally initiate anyone, and it
is stated by Sanatana Goswami that, as an incarnation,
he would not personally do so.
Prior to Lord Caitanya's appearance Madhavendra Puri
appeared, and he initiated several of Caitanya's associates,
including Sri Advaita and Nityananda prabhu. Madhavendra
Puri also initiated Lord Caitanya's own guru, Isvara Puri.
As stated in Caitanya-caritamrta, Madyam lila 4:197, Sri
Madhavendra Puri introduced the conception of conjugal
love for the first time in the Madhvacarya-sampradaya,
and this conclusion was later revealed by Sri Caitanya
Following Lord Caitanya, the modern age of the Gaudiya
Sampradaya was marked by the appearance of Srila Bhaktivinode
Thakur, who took birth in A.D. 1838 in the Nadia District
of West Bengal. Following Srila Bhaktivinode in the disciplic
succession is his son, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati,
who appeared in 1874 in Puri. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta took
initiation from Gaurakisora das Babaji. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta
became the spiritual master of A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
Prabhupada, the most recent Sampradaya Acarya, who appeared
in 1896 in Calcutta.
What is a Guru?
lecture given by
His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
on Vyasa-puja day, 1973, at Bhaktivedanta Manor, England
ajnana-timirandhasya / jnananjana-salakaya
caksur unmilitam yena / tasmai sri-gurave namah
"I was born
in the darkest ignorance, and my guru, my spiritual master,
opened my eyes with the torch of knowledge. I offer my
respectful obeisances unto him."
ajnana means ignorance or darkness. If all the
lights in this room immediately went out, we would not
be able to tell where we or others are sitting. Everything
would become confused. Similarly, we are all in darkness
in this material world, which is a world of tamas.
Tamas or timira means darkness. This material
world is dark, and therefore it needs sunlight or moonlight
for illumination. However, there is another world, a spiritual
world, that is beyond this darkness. That world is described
by Sri Krsna in Bhagavad-gita:
tad bhasayate suryo / na sasanko na pavakah
yad gatva na nivartante / tad dhama paramam mama
of Mine is not illumined by the sun or moon, nor by electricity.
One who reaches it never returns to this material world."
Darkness to Light
business is to bring his disciples from darkness to light.
At present everyone is suffering due to ignorance, just
as one contacts a disease out of ignorance. If one does
not know hygienic principles, he will not know what will
contaminate him. Therefore due to ignorance there is infection,
and we suffer from disease. A criminal may say, "I did
not know the law," but he will not be excused if he commits
a crime. Ignorance is no excuse. Similarly, a child, not
knowing that fire will burn, will touch the fire. The
fire does not think, "This is a child, and he does not
know I will burn." No, there is no excuse. Just as there
are state laws, there are also stringent laws of nature,
and these laws will act despite our ignorance of them.
If we do something wrong out of ignorance, we must suffer.
This is the law. Whether the law is a state law or a law
of nature, we risk suffering if we break it.
business is to see that no human being suffers in this
material world. No one can claim that he is not suffering.
That is not possible. In this material world, there are
three kinds of suffering: adhyatmika, adhibhautika
and adhidaivika. These are miseries arising from
the material body and mind, from other living entities
and from the forces of nature. We may suffer mental anguish,
or we may suffer from other living entities—from ants
or mosquitoes or flies—or we may suffer due to some superior
power. There may be no rain or there may be flood. There
may be excessive heat or excessive cold. So many types
of suffering are imposed by nature. Thus there are three
types of miseries within the material world, and everyone
is suffering from one, two or three of them. No one can
say that he is completely free from suffering.
We may then
ask why the living entity is suffering. The answer
is: out of ignorance. He does not think, "I am committing
mistakes and am leading a sinful life; that is why I am
suffering." Therefore the guru's first business
is to rescue his disciple from this ignorance. We send
our children to school to save them from suffering. If
our children do not receive an education, we fear that
they will suffer in the future. The guru sees that
suffering is due to ignorance, which is compared to darkness.
How can one in darkness be saved? By light. The guru
takes the torchlight of knowledge and presents it before
the living entity enveloped in darkness. That knowledge
relieves him from the sufferings of the darkness of ignorance.
One may ask
whether the guru is absolutely necessary. The Vedas
inform us that he is:
sa gurum evabhigacchet
samit-panih srotriyam brahma-nistham
(Mundaka Up. 1.2.12)
enjoin us to seek out a guru; actually, they say
to seek out the guru, not just a guru. The
guru is one because he comes in disciplic succession.
What Vyasadeva and Krsna taught 5,000 years ago is also
being taught now. There is no difference between the two
instructions. Although hundreds and thousands of acaryas
have come and gone, the message is one. The real guru
cannot be two because the real guru does not speak
differently from his predecessors. Some spiritual teachers
say, "In my opinion you should do this," but this is not
a guru. Such so-called gurus are simply
rascals. The genuine guru has only one opinion,
and that is the opinion expressed by Krsna, Vyasadeva,
Narada, Arjuna, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and the Gosvamis.
Five thousand years ago Lord Sri Krsna spoke Bhagavad-gita,
and Vyasadeva recorded it. Srila Vyasadeva did not
say, "This is my opinion." Rather, he wrote, sri
bhagavan uvaca, that is, "The Supreme Personality
of Godhead says." Whatever Vyasadeva wrote was originally
spoken by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Srila Vyasadeva
did not give his own opinion.
Srila Vyasadeva is a guru. He does not misinterpret
the words of Krsna but transmits them exactly as they
were spoken. If we send a telegram, the person who delivers
the telegram does not have to correct it, edit it or add
to it. He simply presents it. That is the guru's
business. The guru may be this person or that,
but the message is the same; therefore it is said that
guru is one.
In the disciplic
succession we simply find repetition of the same subject.
In Bhagavad-gita Sri Krsna says:
bhava mad-bhakto / mad-yaji mam namaskuru
mam evaisyasi yuktvaivam / atmanam mat-parayanah
mind always in thinking of Me, become My devotee, offer
obeisances and worship Me. Being completely absorbed in
Me, surely you will come to Me." (Bg. 9.34) These very
instructions were reiterated by all the acaryas—Ramanujacarya,
Madhvacarya and Caitanya Mahaprabhu. The six Gosvamis
also transmitted the same message, and we are simply following
in their footsteps. There is no difference. We do not
interpret the words of Krsna by saying, "In my opinion,
the Battlefield of Kuruksetra represents the human body."
Such interpretations are set forth by rascals. In the
world there are many rascal gurus who give their
own opinion, but we can challenge any rascal. A rascal
guru may say, "I am God," or, "We are all God."
That is all right, but we should find out from the dictionary
what the meaning of God is. Generally, a dictionary will
tell us that the word God indicates the Supreme Being.
Thus we may ask such a guru, "Are you the Supreme
Being?" If he cannot understand this, then we should give
the meaning of supreme. Any dictionary will inform us
that supreme means "the greatest authority." We may then
ask, "Are you the greatest authority?" Such a rascal guru,
even though proclaiming himself to be God, cannot answer
such a question. God is the Supreme Being and the highest
authority. No one is equal to Him or greater than Him.
Yet there are many guru Gods, many rascals who
claim to be the Supreme. Such rascals cannot help us escape
the darkness of material existence. They cannot illumine
our darkness with the torchlight of spiritual knowledge.
fide guru will simply present what the supreme
guru, God, says in bona fide scripture. A guru
cannot change the message of the disciplic succession.
Once there was a gentleman named Vallabhacarya, who was
very devoted to Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Vallabhacarya wrote
a commentary on Srimad-Bhagavatam, and he presented
it to Caitanya Mahaprabhu, saying, "Lord Caitanya, please
hear my commentary on Srimad-Bhagavatam. You will
find that it is far better than Sridhara Svami's." Sridhara
Svami was a very ancient commentator Caitanya Mahaprabhu
immediately rejected Vallabhacarya, saying, "Oh, are you
claiming that you have written something better than Sridhara
Svami?" Caitanya Mahaprabhu then chastised Vallabhacarya,
saying, svamike yini na manena, tini vesya. Sri
Caitanya Mahaprabhu sarcastically used the word svami,
which also means husband. He said, "I think that one who
does not recognize the svami [husband] is a prostitute."
In other words, "If you do not recognize Sridhara Svami,
then you are a prostitute. How can I hear from a prostitute?"
We must understand
that we cannot carry out research to find the Absolute
Truth. Caitanya Mahaprabhu Himself said, "My Guru Maharaja
considered me a great fool." He who remains a great fool
before his guru is a guru himself.
However, if one says, "I am so advanced that I can speak
better than my guru," he is simply a rascal. In
Bhagavad-gita Sri Krsna says:
parampara-praptam / imam rajarsayo viduh
sa kaleneha mahata / yogo nastah parantapa
science was thus received through the chain of disciplic
succession, and the saintly kings understood it in that
way. But in course of time the succession was broken,
and therefore the science as it is appears to be lost."
a guru is not simply a fashion. One who
is serious about understanding spiritual life requires
a guru. A guru is a question of necessity,
for one must be very serious to understand spiritual life,
God, proper action and one's relationship with God. When
we are very serious about understanding these subjects,
we need a guru. We shouldn't go to a guru simply
because a guru may be fashionable at the moment.
Surrender must be there, for without surrender we cannot
learn anything. If we go to a guru simply to challenge
him, we will learn nothing. But we must accept the guru
just as Arjuna accepted his guru, Sri Krsna
svabhavah / prcchami tvam dharma-sammudha-cetah
yac chreyah syan niscitam bruhi tan me / sisyas te 'ham
sadhi mam tvam prapannam
"Now I am
confused about my duty and have lost all composure because
of weakness. In this condition I am asking You to tell
me clearly what is best for me. Now I am Your disciple
and a soul surrendered unto You. Please instruct me."
"God" to Dog
This is the
process for accepting a guru. The guru is
Krsna's representative, the former acaryas' representative.
Krsna says that all acaryas are His representatives;
therefore the guru should be offered the same respect
one would offer to God. As Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura
says in his prayers to the spiritual master: yasya
prasadad bhagavat-prasadah. "By the mercy of the spiritual
master, one receives the benediction of Krsna." Thus,
if we surrender to the bona fide guru, we surrender
to God. God accepts our surrender to the guru.
parityajya / mam ekam saranam vraja
aham tvam sarva-papebhyo / moksayisyami ma sucah
all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me.
I shall deliver you from all sinful reaction. Do not fear."
(Bg. 18.66) Someone may argue, "Where is Krsna? I shall
surrender to Him." But no, the process is that we first
surrender to Krsna's representative; then we surrender
to Krsna. Therefore it is said, saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastraih:
the guru is as good as God. When we
offer respects to the guru, we are offering respects
to God. Because we are trying to be God conscious, it
is required that we learn how to offer respects to God
through God's representative. In all the sastras, the
guru is described to be as good as God,
but the guru never says, "I am God." The disciple's
duty is to offer respect to the guru just as he
offers respect to God, but the guru never thinks,
"My disciples are offering me the same respect they offer
to God; therefore I have become God." As soon as he thinks
like this, he becomes a dog instead of God. Therefore
Visvanatha Cakravarti says, kintu prabhor yah priya
eva tasya. Because he is the most confidential servitor
of God, the guru is offered the same respect
that we offer God. God is always God, guru is
always guru. As a matter of etiquette, God
is the worshipable God, and guru is the,
worshiper God (seva-bhagavan). Therefore the guru
is addressed as prabhupada. The word
prabhu means "lord," and pada means "position."
Thus prabhupada means "he who has taken the position
of the Lord." This is the same as saksad-dharitvena
Only if we
are very serious about understanding the science of God
is a guru required. We should not try to keep a
guru as a matter of fashion. One who has accepted
a guru speaks intelligently. He never speaks nonsense.
That is the sign of having accepted a bona fide guru.
We should certainly offer all respect to the spiritual
master, but we should also remember how to carry out his
orders. In Bhagavad-gita Sri Krsna Himself tells
us the method of seeking out and approaching the guru:
viddhi pranipatena / pariprasnena sevaya
upadeksyanti te jnanam / jnaninas tattva-darsinah
to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master.
Inquire from him submissively and render service unto
him. The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto
you because he has seen the truth." (Bg. 4.34) The first
process is that of surrender. We have to find an exalted
person and willingly surrender before him. The sastras
enjoin that before we take a guru we study
him carefully to find out whether we can surrender to
him. We should not accept a guru suddenly out of
fanaticism. That is very dangerous. The guru should
also study the person who wants to become a disciple to
see if he is fit. That is the way a relationship is established
between the guru and disciple. Everything is provided,
but we must take up the process seriously. Then we can
be trained to become a bona fide disciple. First we must
find a bona fide guru, establish our relationship
with him and act accordingly. Then our life will be successful,
for the guru can enlighten the sincere disciple
who is in darkness.
is born a rascal and a fool. If we are born learned, why
do we need to go to school? If we do not cultivate knowledge,
we are no better than animals. An animal may say that
there is no need of books and that he has become a guru,
but how can anyone obtain knowledge without the study
of authoritative books on science and philosophy? Rascal
gurus try to avoid these things. We must understand
that we are all born rascals and fools and that we have
to be enlightened. We have to receive knowledge to make
our lives perfect. If we do not perfect our lives, we
are defeated. What is this defeat? The struggle for existence.
We are trying to obtain a better life, to attain a superior
position, and for this we are struggling very hard. But
we do not know what a superior position actually is.
position we have in this material world must be given
up. We may have a good position or a bad position; in
any case, we cannot remain here. We may earn millions
of dollars and think, "Now I am in a good position," but
a little dysentery or cholera will finish our position.
If the bank fails, our position is gone. So actually there
is no good position in this material world. It is a farce.
Those who try to attain a better position in the material
world are ultimately defeated because there is no better
position. Bhagavad-gita (14.26) says what the better
ca yo 'vyabhicarena / bhakti-yogena sevate
sa gunan samatityaitan / brahma-bhuyaya kalpate
engages in full devotional service, who does not fall
down in any circumstance, at once transcends the modes
of material nature and thus comes to the level of Brahman."
any science that gives us the knowledge by which we may
become immortal? Yes, we may become immortal, but not
in the material sense. We cannot receive this knowledge
in so-called universities. However, there is knowledge
contained in the Vedic scriptures by which we may become
immortal. That immortality is our better position. No
more birth, no more death, no more old age, no more disease.
Thus the guru takes on a very great responsibility.
He must guide his disciple and enable him to become an
eligible candidate for the perfect position, immortality.
The guru must be competent to lead his disciple
back home, back to Godhead. Thank you very much.
Prabhupada: Who is Guru?
THEY ARE NOT GURUS
Prabhupada: So-called gurus, they are so-called gurus. They are not gurus.
That is already explained. If one does not speak what
Krsna speaks, he is not guru. If you accept so-called
guru, that is your misfortune. What can be done?
Pusta Krsna: Some of them will say some things
that Krsna says, but they'll take from other places
also. What is the position of such persons?
Prabhupada: He's MOST DANGEROUS. He's MOST DANGEROUS.
He is OPPORTUNIST. HE'S FINDING OUT CUSTOMER, SOMETHING
HERE... ACCORDING TO THE CUSTOMER HE IS GIVING SOMETHING,
AS THE CUSTOMERS WILL BE PLEASED. SO HE IS NOT
GURU. He's a servant. He wants to serve the
so-called disciples so that he may be satisfied and
pay him something. He's servant. He's not guru. Guru
is the master. You cannot disobey guru. But if you become
a servant, you want to please the disciple by flattering
him to get his money, then you are not guru, you are
servant. Just like a servant pleases the master. He's
not guru. He's servant. So our position should be servant,
yes, but servant of the Supreme. So guru means heavy.
You cannot utilize him for satisfying your whims. That
is not guru.
CHEATING NOT EFFECTIVE (April 22.77).
Prabhupada: People complained against [a GBC for
trying to appear as a guru]. ...You become guru, but
you must be QUALIFIED FIRST of all. THEN you become.
...What is the use of producing some RASCAL GURU?
Tamala Krishna: Well,
I have studied myself and all of your disciples, and
it's clear fact that we are ALL CONDITIONED SOULS,
so we CANNOT BE gurus. MAYBE someday it may be possible....
Prabhupada: Hm. [agrees]
Tamala Krishna: ...but
Prabhupada: Yes. I shall produce some gurus.
I shall say who is guru, 'No you become acharya. You
become authorized.' I retire completely. But the training
must be COMPLETE.
Tamala Krishna: The process of purification must
be there. ...No rubber stamp.
Prabhupada: You can cheat, but it will not be
effective. Just see our Gaudiya Matha. Everyone wanted
to be guru. A small temple and "guru." What
kind of guru?
Srila Prabhupada: We haven't got
to manufacture. To manufacture ideas is troublesome.
Why should we take the trouble? And as soon as you want
to manufacture something to my...., that is DANGEROUS.
...That you are singing every day, "what our guru
has said, that is our life and soul." ...As soon
as this POISON will come-suppress guru and I become
Brahman-everything FINISHED. Spiritual life is finished.
Gaudiya Matha finished, ...VIOLATED the orders of Guru
...And as soon as you manufacture, fall down.
This manufacturing idea is very, very dangerous in spiritual
life. ...Our mission is to serve bhakta visesa and live
with devotees. NOT THAT YOU TAKE THE PLACE OF GURU.
THAT IS NONSENSE, VERY DANGEROUS. Then everything will
be spoiled. As soon as you become AMBITIOUS to TAKE
THE PLACE of GURU-gurusuh nara matih. That is MATERIAL
Srila Prabhupada: Don't be allured
by cheap disciples. Go on steadfastly to render service
first. If you immediately become guru, then
the service activities will be stopped; and
as there are so many cheap gurus and cheap disciples,
without any substantial knowledge, and manufacturing
new sampradayas, and with service activities stopped,
and all spiritual progress choked up. (SPL (VI 1987)
AND BECOME GURU
Srila Prabhupada: "I
am practically seeing that as soon as they, our students,
begin to learn a little Sanskrit, they immediately feel
they have become more than their guru. Then the policy
is to kill their guru and become guru themselves". "As
soon as he learns that Guru Maharaj is dead, now I am
so advanced I can kill
guru and become guru. Then he is finished."
(Srila Prabhupada 1976).
Srila Prabhupada: "This
is the function of the GBC, to see that one may not
be taken away by maya. The GBC should all be the instructor
gurus. I am the initiator guru, and you should
be the instructor guru by teaching what I am
teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title,
but you must actually come to this platform. This is
what I want." (to Madhudvisa 4 Aug, 1975)
Srila Prabhupada: "I am the Spiritual
Master of this institution, and ALL the members
of the Society, they're supposed to be MY disciples.
They follow the rules and regulations which I ask them
to follow, and they are INITIATED BY ME spiritually"
- (Srila Prabhupada Radio Interview, 12 March 1968,
Srila Prabhupada: "I wish that each
and every branch shall keep their separate identity
and cooperate keeping the acharya in the center.
On this principle we can open any number of branches
all over the world. The Rama Krishna mission works on
this principle and thus as an organization they have
done wonderfully." (letter 11th Feb. 1967)
PRABHUPADA: THE RASCALS
ARE READY TO CHECK THIS MOVEMENT
So this movement is so important. Somehow
or other if you can engage them in chanting and dancing,
the whole world will be united. What the United Nations
has failed, this movement can do--if it is not checked
by the rascals. But the rascals are ready to check
this movement. That is the difficulty. Otherwise,
God, Krsna, is always ready to help us. (Srimad-Bhagavatam
3.26.18 Bombay, December 27, 1974)
The whole situation has been spoiled by these so-called
rascal gurus who gives his own opinion.
This is our plain declaration: Let any rascal
guru come. We can convince him that he is not guru,
because he is speaking differently....So guru is one.
Guru cannot be two. As soon as you find two opinions
of guru, either both of them are rascals, or one is
still at least rascal. (Lecture: What is a Guru? London,
August 22, 1973)
Many times they give me very great credit
that I have done wonderful. Yes, I have done wonderful.
But what is the reason? Because I am not a rascal. I
speak what Krsna has spoken. That's all. Very easy.
Everyone can do that. Not only I. Any of you, you can
do this. Simply speak what is..., what Krsna has said.
That's all. Don't make addition,
alteration. Then you become rascal. Immediately you
become rascal. (Srimad-Bhagavatam Lecture
1.5.29 Vrndavana, August 10, 1974)
THE RASCAL EDITORS
(Jayadvaita Swami), THEY ARE DOING HAVOC
Prabhupada: The rascal
editors, they are doing havoc.
Yasoda-nandana: Sometimes they appeal that "We
can make better English," so they change like that,
just like in the case of Isopanisad. There are over
a hundred changes. So where is the need? Your words
are sufficient. The potency is there. When they change,
it is something else.
Svarupa Damodara: That's actually a very dangerous
Yasoda-nandana: What is it going to be in five
years? It's going to be a different book.
Prabhupada: So you... What you are going... It
is very serious situation. You write one letter that
"Why you have made so many changes?" And whom
to write? Who will care? All rascals are there. Write
to Satsvarupa that "This is the position. They
are doing anything and everything at their whim."
The next printing should be again to the original way.
Tamala Krsna: They should have a board of Satsvarupa
Tamala Krsna: Those two men are both in Los Angeles
Prabhupada: So write them immediately that "The
rascal editors, they are doing havoc, and they are being
maintained by Ramesvara and party."
(S.P.Conversation, "Rascal Editors,"June 22,
Prabhupada: Change of government... Just like
they say, a change of theories by the rascals. Change
Harikesa: But as soon as a government changes...
change means it is the domain of rascals, pandemonium.
Just like in Manu-samhita it is said that, nasyam svatantratam
arhati, women should not be given independence. Once
said, that is fact. If you want to change, you suffer.
That's all. (S.P. Morning Walk December 14, 1975, New
"A devotee should have intelligence to know who is deviating.
Surrender by your intelligence but don't surrender your
intelligence." (SP to Bali Mardana, 1974)
IF YOU WORSHIP A RASCAL, THEN YOUR LIFE IS SPOILED
Now, Canakya Pandita gives three things, formula, "If
you want to be fortunate, then do these three things."
What is that? Murkha yatra na pujyante: "Do not give
any credit to the rascal." That is first qualification.
Don't be carried away by the rascal. Murkha yatra na
pujyante. If you worship a rascal, then your life
is spoiled. You must worship a really learned representative
of God. That is very good. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.31
San Francisco, July 16, 1975)
FALSE ACARYAS, KALI-YUGA DISCIPLES AND PSEUDO-VAISHNAVAS
"There are many
jealous people in the dress of Vaishnavas in
this Krishna Consciousness movement, and they should
be completely neglected.
A false acarya may try to override a vaishnava by
a high-court decision, (2/3 hand vote) but Bhaktivinoda
Thakura says that he is nothing but a disciple of
"Bhaktivinoda Thakura says, Kali-cela.
He indicates that there are other Vaishnavas, pseudo-Vaishnavas,
with tilaka on their nose and kunti beads around their
neck. Such a pseudo-Vaishnava associates with money
and women and is jealous of successful Vaishnavas.
Although passing for a Vaishnava, his only business
is earning money in the dress of a Vaishnava".
(CC.Madhy.,Ch.1, Text 218 / 220, purport)
IN THE GARB OF RELIGIOUS PROPAGANDISTS
The pseudo religionists have neither knowledge
nor detachment from material affairs, for most of them
want to live in the golden shackles of material bondage
under the shadow of philanthropic activities disguised
as religious principles. By a false display of religious
sentiments, they present a show of devotional service
while indulging in all sorts of immoral activities.
In this way they pass as spiritual masters and devotees
of God. Such violators of religious principles have
no respect for the authoritative acaryas, the holy teachers
in the strict disciplic succession.
THEY IGNORE THE VEDIC INJUNCTION ACARYOPASANA--"ONE
MUST WORSHIP THE ACARYA"--and Krsna's statement
in the Bhagavad-gita (4.2) evam parampara-praptam, "This
supreme science of God is received through the disciplic
succession." Instead, to mislead the people in
general they themselves become so-called acaryas, but
they do not even follow the principles of the acaryas.
These rogues are the most dangerous elements in human
society. Because there is no religious government, they
escape punishment by the law of the state. They cannot,
however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly
declared in the Bhagavad-gita that envious demons
in the garb of religious propagandists shall be
thrown into the darkest regions of hell (Isopanisad
SRI ISOPANISAD CONFIRMS THAT
THESE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS ARE HEADING TOWARD THE MOST
OBNOXIOUS PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF
THEIR SPIRITUAL MASTER BUSINESS, WHICH THEY CONDUCT SIMPLY
FOR SENSE GRATIFICATION. (Bg.16.19-20)
(Note: they do NOT recognise the superior unique position
of Prabhupada, acarya gives diksa to madhyam adhikari
see antya lila 4.192-194) therefore competition envy of
Prabhupada leads to splicing tapes and concoction of 2\3
majority voted "guru" BUSINESS FRANCHISE club.)
Arrogance, pride, anger, conceit,
harshness and ignorance--these qualities belong to those
of demoniac nature, O son of Prtha. (Bg 16.4)
"In this verse, the royal road to hell is described.
The demoniac want to make a show of religion and advancement
in spiritual science, although they do not follow the
principles. They are always arrogant and proud in possessing
some type of education or so much wealth. THEY DESIRE
TO BE WORSHIPED BY OTHERS, AND DEMAND RESPECTABILITY,
ALTHOUGH THEY DO NOT COMMAND RESPECT. Over trifles they
become very angry and speak harshly, not gently. THEY
DO NOT KNOW WHAT SHOULD BE DONE AND WHAT SHOULD NOT BE
DONE. THEY DO EVERYTHING WHIMSICALLY, ACCORDING TO THEIR
OWN DESIRE, AND THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE ANY AUTHORITY. These
demoniac qualities are taken on by them from the beginning
of their bodies in the wombs of their mothers, and as
they grow they manifest all these inauspicious qualities."
(Bg 16.4 Pp.)
Jackals who imitate Prabhupada's
unique position of being worshiped as acarya (as good
as God) who want their photos put on alter and their socks
worhiped MUST be exposed----Prabhupada's order.
So the washerman kept the dye water in a big tub, and
the jackal fell in it. So jackal fell in it; he became
blue, all blue. So he fled away, and all the animals said,
"What is this animal? What is the animal? What is
that animal? Oh?" All, even lion became surprised.
"We have not seen this." "So who are you,
sir?" "I am sent by God to rule over you."
"Oh?" So they began to worship him as God, as
leader. Then one day other jackals, they were crying,
"Wa, wa," but the jackals cannot stop. If others
jackals cry, the jackal cannot stop. So he also began
to "Wa, wa." Oh, then, they, oh, this rascal
is a jackal. Yävat kiïcin na bhäñate.
That these rascals are jackals. Now they are talking nonsense.
We can detect that "Here is a jackal." (730503mw.la)
SO WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THEM. THEY ARE NOT LEADER; THEY
ARE JACKALS. SO JACKALS CANNOT ANYMORE RULE OVER. THAT
SHOULD BE OUR PROPAGANDA. NOT ONLY SCIENTIFIC, ALL POLITICAL
THINGS, SOCIAL THINGS, EVERYTHING.
THE RASCAL GODBROTHERS
So these rascals, Godbrothers, they are envious. ( Room
Conversation with Reporter of The Star October 16, 1975,
The whole situation has been spoiled by these so-called
rascal gurus who gives his own opinion. (Lecture:
What is a Guru? London, August 22, 1973)
The rascal editors (Jayadvaita Swami), they are doing
havoc (S.P.Conversation, "Rascal Editors,"June 22, 1977,
"Do not give any credit to the rascal". "Don't
be carried away by the rascal" "If you worship a rascal,
then your life is spoiled" (Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.31
San Francisco, July 16, 1975)
THEY ARE DRESSING LIKE VAISNAVA, AND THEY ARE SO ENVIOUS
There are similarly men also. Unnecessarily they are
envious, offensive, unnecessary. They cannot tolerate
others' opulence. Just like our Godbrothers. They are
envious. What I have done to them? I am doing my business,
trying to serve my Guru Maharaja. But they are envious
because I am so opulent. I have got so much fame, so
many influence, so much influence all over the world.
Everyone is praising me about... That is ignorance.
And this is regrettable because they are posing themselves
as Vaisnava. Ordinary man can do that, but they are
dressing like Vaisnava, and they are so envious.
That Tirtha Maharaja, unnecessarily he was envious,
whole life fighting, fighting, fighting in the court
and died. Simply planning. (S.P. Room Conversation January
8, 1977, Bombay)
THEY ARE NOT
EVEN ORDINARY HUMAN BEING
Krsna sakti vina nahe krsna name pracara: "Without
Krsna's special power of attorney, nobody can preach
His name." Caitanya-caritamrta. So these rascals,
Godbrothers, they are envious that... What he has
written? Bon Maharaja. Just see what kind of men they
are. They are not even ordinary human being.
They are envious of me, and what to speak of make a
judgment by estimation? They're envious. Enviousness
is immediately disqualification of Vaisnava, immediate.
He is not a human being. Paramo nirmatsaranam satam.
This Bhagavatam is meant for the person who is completely
not envious. That is the beginning. Why a Vaisnava should
be envious for anyone? Everyone is working according
to his karma. He is trying to rectify him, that "Be
out of these clutches of karma. You come to bhakti."
Why he should be envious? Vancha-kalpatarubhyas ca krpa-sindhubhya
A Vaisnava should be like ocean of mercy to reclaim
the fallen souls. That is Vaisnava's qualification.
So Vaisnava should be envious? Just see. So these
persons, they are not even human being, what to speak
of Vaisnava. Vaisnava cannot be envious. Vaisnava
should be: "Oh, my Lord's name is being broadcast.
He is getting, giving so much service to make Krsna
known." That man has appreciated, that "All
these spiritual leaders, they are deriding. You are
the only man... You are... It enthuses us, give us more
encouragement, that you are keeping intact, love of
Krsna." This is an appreciation. Why he should
be envious? He should be, rather, very much enthused
that "This single man is keeping Krsna all over
And everyone is deriding. Even Gandhi is killing Krsna.
Dr. Radhakrishnan is killing. Their only business
is to kill Krsna. He is also doing that, our, this
Bon Maharaja. He never speaks of Krsna. His rascal,
that Institute of Indian Philosophy, nobody goes to
urine(?) there. We see practically. And our temple is
always filled up, five hundred men. And he is trying
for the last forty years. He is simply planning: "This
will be playground. This will be this ground. This will
be this ground." And it is becoming jungle. Still,
he is so envious, black snake. So
one circular letter should be issued to all our center,
that "Any Bon Maharaja or anyone, his representative,
should not be received." They are envious.
Yes. Quoting that. We have got several complaints
like that. Satsvarupa also complained. Sometimes our
order was cancelled by Bon Maharaja's propaganda. (
Room Conversation with Reporter of The Star October
16, 1975, Johannesburg)
PRABHUPADA: SO THEY MAY KILL
Prabhupada: This is our position. Gradually they
will show Hare Krsna movement. In India also, although
India's... They will want to crush down this movement.
So this will be up to Him. Krsna or Krsna's movement,
the same thing. And Krsna was attempted to be killed
by Kamsa class of men and his company, the demons. So
it will be there; it is already there. Don't be disappointed,
because that is the meaning that it is successful. Krsna's
favor is there, because Krsna and Krsna's movement is
not different, nondiff..., identical. So as Krsna was
attempted to be killed, many, many years before He appeared...
At eighth child, if the mother produces child yearly,
still ten years, eight years before His birth, the mother
was to be attempted to be killed. So there may be attempt
like that. And Lord Jesus Christ was killed. So they
may kill me also. (S.P.Room Conversation May 3,
1976, Honolulu) Note: Srila Prabhupada says there may
be an attempt to kill him or his movement. If we look
earlier in the conversation he actually says the attempt
will be there.
THERE IS NOTHING ASTONISHING
ABOUT THIS, THE DEMONIAC CAN KILL ANYONE FOR THEIR NEFARIOUS
This action of Kamsa is not very difficult to understand.
There are many instances in the history of the world
of persons in the royal order who have killed father,
brother, or a whole family and friends for the satisfaction
of their ambitions. There is nothing astonishing
about this, for the demoniac can kill anyone for their
nefarious ambitions. (KRSNA BOOK CHAPTER ONE- Advent
of Lord Krsna)
the may kill me
"So there may be attempt like that. And
Lord Jesus Christ was killed. So they may kill me also.
So it will be there; it is already there" "Someone
says that I've been poisoned. It is possible."
(S.P.Room Convers. May 3, 1976, Honolulu and Nov. 9,
Srila Prabhupada: "someone
has poisoned me." ( S.P.Room Conversation
November 10, 1977, Vrndavana )
The demoniac have killed our eternal father Srila Prabhupada
and his ISKCON family for the satisfaction of their
ambitions. There is nothing astonishing about this for
the demoniac can kill anyone for their nefarious ambitions.
They are now in the process of killing him again by
changing the divine message contained in his original
transcendental books. Even though we may have to face
many dangers, let us fight to save Srila Prabhupada's
pure instructions, which are no different than himself.
We cannot reform Iskcons demoniac elements, and we might
not have the power to start a new mission, but we just
have to work together to keep Srila Prabhupada in the
center as the Acarya, and see to it that his original
pre 1977 Books are printed and distributed.
YOU MUST WORSHIP A REALLY LEARNED REPRESENTATIVE OF
You must worship a really learned representative
of God. That is very good. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.31
San Francisco, July 16, 1975)
A serious disciple must be alert when selecting a
bona fide spiritual master. He must be sure that
the spiritual master can deliver all the transcendental
necessities. The spiritual master must observe how inquisitive
the disciple is and how eager he is to understand the
transcendental subject matter. . . . (Cc. Ch. 24, Txt
WHO IS GURU?
When one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata,
he is to be accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly
like Hari, the Personality of Godhead.
ONLY such a person is eligible to occupy the post
of a guru.
The guru must be situated on the topmost platform of
devotional service. There are three classes of devotees,
and the guru must be accepted
from the topmost class. (Cc. Ch. 24, Txt
(Note how carefully Prabhupada gives
this instructions of worshiping the ACARYA against business
men spiritual masters and religious propagandists)
The first-class devotee is the spiritual master for
all kinds of people. It is said: gurur nrnam. The word
nrnam means "of all human beings." The guru is not limited
to a particular group. It is stated in the Upadesamrta
of Rupa Gosvami that a guru is a gosvami, a controller
of the senses and the mind. Such a guru can accept disciples
from all over the world. Prthivim sa sisyat. This is
the test of the guru. . . The maha-bhagavata is one
who decorates his body with tilaka and whose name indicates
him to be a servant of Krsna by the word dasa. He is
also initiated by a bona fide spiritual master and is
expert in worshiping the Deity, chanting mantras correctly,
performing sacrifices, offering prayers to the Lord,
and performing sankirtana. He knows how to serve the
Supreme Personality of Godhead and how to respect a
Vaisnava. When one has attained the topmost position
of maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as a guru
and worshiped exactly like Hari, the Personality of
Only such a person is eligible to occupy the
post of a guru. However, if one is highly qualified
but is not a Vaisnava, he cannot be accepted as a guru.
One cannot be a brahmana unless one is a Vaisnava. If
one is a Vaisnava, he is already a brahmana. If a guru
is completely qualified as a Vaisnava, he must be accepted
as a brahmana even if he is not born in a brahmana family.
The caste system method of distinguishing a brahmana
by birth is not acceptable when applied to a bona fide
spiritual master. A spiritual master is a qualified
brahmana and acarya. If one is not a qualified brahmana,
he is not expert in studying Vedic literatures. Nana-sastra-vicaranaika-nipunau.
Every Vaisnava is a spiritual master, and a spiritual
master is automatically expert in brahminical behavior.
He also understands the Vedic sastras. . . As far as
the mutual testing of the spiritual master and disciple
is concerned, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura
explains that a bona fide disciple must be very inquisitive
to understand the transcendental subject matter.
ONLY uttama-adhikari actually
delivers. ( SB 2.8.7)
Thus one who is not well versed in the authorized scriptures
and not able to answer all such relevant inquiries should
not pose as a spiritual master for the matter of material
gain. IT IS ILLEGAL TO BECOME A SPIRITUAL MASTER IF ONE
IS UNABLE TO DELIVER THE DISCIPLE. (Cc. Madhya 16.74)
"If one is expert in Vedic literature and has full
faith in the Supreme Lord, then he is AN UTTAMA-ADHIKARI,
A FIRST-CLASS VAISNAVA, A TOPMOST VAISNAVA WHO CAN DELIVER
THE WHOLE WORLD AND TURN EVERYONE TO KRSNA CONSCIOUSNESS."
(Cc. Madhya 22.65)
Prabhupada distributed the holy name (in his books) throughout
the world this is the potency of Uttama-adhikari. HE is
mentioned in this paragraph here---the ACARYA who delivers.
Uttama-adhikari not so cheap.
NoD 17 Ecstatic Love
By the process of executing regulated devotional service,
one is actually elevated onto THE TRANSCENDENTAL STAGE,
BEYOND THE MATERIAL MODES OF NATURE. At that time one's
heart becomes illuminated like the sun. The sun is far
above the planetary systems, and there is no possibility
of its being covered by any kind of cloud; similarly,
when a devotee is purified like the sun, from his pure
heart there is a diffusion of ecstatic love which is more
glorious than the sunshine. Only at that time is the attachment
to Krsna perfect.
SPONTANEOUSLY, THE DEVOTEE BECOMES EAGER TO SERVE THE
LORD IN HIS ECSTATIC LOVE. AT THIS STAGE THE DEVOTEE IS
ON THE PLATFORM OF UTTAMA-ADHIKARI, PERFECT DEVOTION.
SUCH A DEVOTEE HAS NO AGITATION FROM MATERIAL AFFECTIONS
and is interested only in the service of Radha and Krsna.
"In Dvapara-yuga, devotees of Lord Visnu and Krsna
rendered devotional service according to the principles
of pancaratrika. In this Age of Kali, the Supreme Personality
of Godhead is worshiped simply by the chanting of His
holy names.» Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura
"WITHOUT BEING EMPOWERED BY THE DIRECT POTENCY OF
LORD KRSNA TO FULFILL HIS DESIRE AND WITHOUT BEING SPECIFICALLY
FAVORED BY THE LORD, NO HUMAN BEING CAN BECOME THE SPIRITUAL
MASTER OF THE WHOLE WORLD.
He certainly cannot succeed by mental concoction, which
is not meant for devotees or religious people.
ONLY AN EMPOWERED PERSONALITY CAN DISTRIBUTE THE HOLY
NAME OF THE LORD AND ENJOIN ALL FALLEN SOULS TO WORSHIP
KRSNA. BY DISTRIBUTING THE HOLY NAME OF THE LORD, HE CLEANSES
THE HEARTS OF THE MOST FALLEN PEOPLE; THEREFORE HE EXTINGUISHES
THE BLAZING FIRE OF THE MATERIAL WORLD. NOT ONLY THAT,
HE BROADCASTS THE SHINING BRIGHTNESS OF KRSNA'S EFFULGENCE
THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. SUCH AN ACARYA, OR SPIRITUAL MASTER,
SHOULD BE CONSIDERED NONDIFFERENT FROM KRSNA-THAT IS,
HE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED THE INCARNATION OF LORD KRSNA'S
Such a personality is krsnalingita-vigraha-that is, he
is always embraced by the Supreme Personality of Godhead,
Krsna. Such a person is above the considerations of the
HE IS THE GURU OR SPIRITUAL MASTER FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD,
A DEVOTEE ON THE TOPMOST PLATFORM, THE MAHA-BHAGAVATA
STAGE, AND A PARAMAHAMSA-THAKURA, A SPIRITUAL FORM ONLY
FIT TO BE ADDRESSED AS PARAMAHAMSA OR THAKURA."
DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION OF ACARYAS --- SRILA PRABHUPADA IS
THE CURRENT ACARYA.
In Bhagavad-gita, Thirteenth Chapter, it is clearly stated
that one should execute devotional service and advance
on the path of spiritual knowledge by accepting the acarya.
ACARYOPASANAM: ONE SHOULD WORSHIP AN ACARYA, a spiritual
master who knows things as they are. The spiritual master
must be in the disciplic succession from Krsna. THE PREDECESSORS
OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER ARE HIS SPIRITUAL MASTER, HIS
GRAND SPIRITUAL MASTER, HIS GREAT-GRAND SPIRITUAL MASTER
AND SO ON, WHO FORM THE DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION OF ACARYAS.
It is recommended herewith that all the acaryas be given
the highest respect. It is stated, gurusu nara-matih.
GURUSU MEANS "UNTO THE ACARYAS," and nara-matih means
"thinking like a common man." To think of the Vaisnavas,
the devotees, as belonging to a particular caste or community,
to think of the acaryas as ordinary men or to think of
the Deity in the temple as being made of stone, wood or
metal, IS CONDEMNED.
In this connection the Padma Purana states, arcye visnau
sila-dhir gurusu nara-matir vaisnave jati-buddhih: "One
who considers the arca-murti, the worshipable Deity of
Lord Visnu, to be stone, THE SPIRITUAL MASTER TO BE AN
ORDINARY HUMAN BEING, and a Vaisnava to belong to a particular
caste or creed, is possessed of HELLISH INTELLIGENCE."
One who follows such conclusions is doomed.
Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
All glories to His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami